Thinking about buying or insuring a boat in Preveza Greece??

Showing posts with label Lefkada. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Lefkada. Show all posts

Tuesday 15 June 2021

Amel Maramu for Survey and Seatrial in Leros, Greece

I am back in sunny Leros for a week! 

Todays Survey assignment was for Pre-Purchase which also includes a Valuation and a full Sea trial. 

Renowned as one of the most perfect cruising yachts ever created, the Amel Maramu and her big sister the Supermaramu (which I have also Surveyed) have all the features that one could possibly wish for to explore the most remote corners of the world in safety and comfort. 



The centre cockpit provides a well-protected area with a large amount of space to relax, dine and to keep the skipper company underway. It is fitted with removable clears and sunshades to cater for all sort of weather.







With a short draft for a boat of this size at only 6'5", she is ideal for tidal areas or for sailing amongst reefs, while her keel is still substantial enough to give her very good tracking ability and pointing remarkably high when sailing upwind. 




This jobs all about Island Hopping!

Inside, the Amel’s magnificent skills and attention to detail are visible everywhere. The timberwork and joinery is exquisite. The wide-open salon centres around a versatile table with wings on either side that can be lifted to accommodate more guests, each side seating 4-5 people comfortably. 




Storage is exceptional throughout and will easily rival a 60’ cruising yacht. The 2-cabins / 2-bathroom layout is perfect to give the owners plenty of privacy and for their guests to also have a little ‘apartment’ of their own forward, with a door separating their cabin, wardrobe and head area from the rest of the boat.  


A very large quarter berth in the salon has a swing-out backrest that is hinged in a way to become a comfortable lee-sheet, making this berth an ideal spot to rest between watches at sea. 


The galley is very large and designed in a way to be safe to use in all conditions. As with the rest of the boat, storage is abundant and well-thought of , so to have room for everything you need on a long voyage without cluttering the boat.

The aft cabin is exceptionally large for a boat of this size, with a proper queen size berth, huge amount of storage, very good headroom and it’s own access to the ensuite head / shower area.


Survey conclusion and review: 


All Amels, since 1967, have been built with Amel designed biaxial fiberglass cloth. This is a flat woven fiberglass cloth that is much stronger in sheer and tension than conventional mat and woven roving laminates.


The hull is moulded in one piece incorporating one piece/non-spliced lengths of biaxial cloth running from bulwark, down through the keel/centreline, and up to the opposite bulwark. In the same fashion the next series of laminates run from the bow lengthwise to the stern, again, employing one piece/non-spliced length of biaxial cloth.


The deck assembly is built in a similar fashion. While the hull is a sold fiberglass laminate with no core, the deck assembly employs a core of vertical end grain balsa in strategic horizontal areas to enhance stiffness and is insulation from heat and noise. There are also substrates of "Iron Wood" in the deck assembly where cleats and the windlass are installed to easily accommodate the increased compression and shearing loads in the foredeck.


After all the structural assemblies are completely installed, the separately completed deck assembly is joined to the hull, (again, while it is still in the mould) with six layers of the same biaxial cloth used in the primary lamination, around the entire hull to deck interface. 


What is accomplished, effectively, is the elimination of a conventional hull to deck joint. The hull and deck are married with a homogeneous fiberglass matrix, which insures a strong and lee free hull and deck join for the entire life of the vessel.


Found an Amel Yacht in Greece and need help? 


Drop me a message at steventruss1@aol.com




 



Saturday 29 May 2021

Fountaine Pajot 48 Catamaran Survey - Sea Trial and Review

Todays assignment was in Lefkada and a Pre- Purchase Survey and Sea trial on this Fountaine Pajot 48 Catamaran



Its worth watching the video below to see how they build their hulls. We used the same technology in New Zealand when we were building light weight racers. 





 

Some video of the sea trials. An hours fast sail from Preveza to Lefkada for the 'Haul Out' and then an hour back. 



Sea trials were conducted to measure the vessel's performance and general seaworthiness.
 Testing of the vessel's speed, manoeuvrability, equipment and safety features are also conducted. 




Wednesday 26 May 2021

Beneteau 57 2004 for Survey

Todays assignment in Preveza was an Insurance Survey on this 2004 model Beneteau 57. She was fitted with every conceivable extra from air con to washing machine and maintained to a high standard.

With large fuel and water tank capacities she is ready to go long distance cruising anywhere in the world or around the Mediterranean.



The hull is solid GRP with balsa rib bands an a s
tructural hull liner bonded and laminated to the hull.
Deck is balsa sandwich for rigidity, weight saving and thermal sound insulation.



Stripped out ready for Survey. 

Yanmar 4LHA  4 cylinder 4 stroke engine of 160 h.p. fitted with 2 alternators 1 x 24 volt 80 amp 1 X 12 volt 80 amp. 

 Folding Max Prop through a 40 mm stainless steel shaft.







 

Saturday 1 May 2021

List of Yacht Surveyors working in Athens, Lefkada, Preveza, Leros Greece

We will be in Preveza from then 20th May 2021 for 10 days carrying out a number of inspections and still have a few slots available. Please contact me at your earliest to discuss your requirements. #





Sunday 3 January 2021

Buying an Ex Charter Yacht in Greece and then the Survey!

Thinking of buying a yacht in Greece? There are bargains to be had! You can now find a nice 'Greek Island Hopper' for 30,000 euros! Take a look at this great starter Yacht.....Mamba 34 1977 Yacht

The majority of Greek yachts listed with some brokers are former charter yachts, known as Greek professional yachts. Some people shy away from them, believing it equivalent to buying a second-hand vehicle from a car hire firm. Not all charter yachts are ill-used or poorly maintained.


In fact, a lot of the professional yachts in Greece are owned by individuals rather than yacht charter companies. The owners charter them out in order to benefit from VAT and other tax advantages.

Often the owner will charter for the minimum number of days required to retain professional status and cover the annual mooring and maintenance costs of the yacht.

If you are prepared to spend time looking around you will find a big difference in the appearance of yachts of the same age, with some looking 'tired' from heavy use while others seem years younger.

THE SURVEY

Having found a yacht you want to buy you should have it surveyed by a professional surveyor. That where I come in! It is not unknown for a charter yacht to suffer major hull damage, be patched up by an unscrupulous owner, and then offered for resale.

"Buyer Beware" should certainly be your motto.


My survey will not only protect you from buying a boat with technical problems but it is also required by most insurance companies. You will pay between 500 - 1000 Euros for a survey.

Link to my fees and costs

GREEK FLAG

99% of Greek professional yachts are Greek-flagged. If the boat is flagged in another country then the rules of that country will apply and you need advice from a qualified broker.

If you are not a Greek citizen or an E.U. citizen resident in Greece you will need to change flag if the boat is intended for private use. You can keep Greek flag if you have a yacht charter business in Greece.

SALES PRICE

We were once advised never to pay a Greek the price he asks for anything, as he will always expect you to bargain...

This is certainly true when it comes to boats. You should be able to negotiate down from the initial asking price. A good survey may give you ammunition for this, as few used boats will be without any defects.

I will be able to advise you what the 'going rate' is for the type of yacht you are interested in.

Some brokers in Greece do not work on a fixed commission basis. They will agree a price with the owner that he/she will accept. They then try to obtain as high a price as possible from the purchaser. Their commission is the difference. The extra they add to the 'owner's price' can be quite considerable and leaves plenty of scope for negotiation.

VAT

These rules are changing after Brexit so check out the RYA site for the latest news. Greek professional yachts will have been purchased VAT exempt. If you are an E.U. national, you will be required to pay VAT on the current value of the yacht in addition to the purchase price.

The VAT rate in Greece is 24% but often you can negotiate with the Seller and it is not unknown for deals to be reached where you pay only an additional 5% and the Seller handles the payment of the remaining VAT.

You may be exempted from payment of VAT if you are involved in commercial activity that includes yacht chartering.

If you are not an E.U. Citizen you will not need to pay the outstanding VAT, but you will require the yacht to be custom cleared from the E.U. This takes several days and costs about 900 Euro.

TYPICAL PURCHASE PROCEDURE

Having found a yacht, you negotiate a price with the broker and reach an agreement. You should be supplied with an inventory for the yacht so you know exactly what is included in the sale.

You may need a solicitor to act for you during the sale. Your solicitor will protect you by ensuring that there are no encumbrances or debts on the yacht, and that the ownership situation and titles are clear.

The solicitor will prepare an M.O.A. (Memorandum of Agreement) stating all the details of the transaction, including terms, dates and payments, and what comes with the boat. This Memorandum should be conditional on a survey. The M.O.A. is signed by both Buyer and Seller.

You arrange a survey of the yacht and, on the basis of this, either agree the price, re-negotiate, or in some cases the wisest action may be to walk away!

You normally pay a deposit of 10-20% of the purchase price to your solicitor as soon as possible in order to have a legally binding agreement. Your solicitor will pay this to the seller after all the necessary documents have been handed over to him.

You must send the balance of the purchase price to the solicitor in time to comply with the provisions negotiated when drafting the Memorandum of Agreement. The solicitor will pay the full purchase price to the seller only after he has made sure that all legal and tax requirements have been taken care of by the seller and after all required documents have been handed over to him by the seller.

As part of the sales process the yacht will be deleted from the Greek registry. Upon deletion an official ownership certificate will be issued from the Hellenic Registrar of Shipping. The certificate will confirm that the boat is free from encumbrances and liens.

In the meantime you can arrange registration for the boat in your country.

After completion of all the paperwork you can take over your boat here in Greece or you can arrange to have it delivered to wherever you intend to keep her.

You can only sail your yacht after a Bill of Sale has been issued and officially signed by both Seller and Buyer and the Deletion Certificate has been issued. Buying a yacht can be a fairly lengthy and bureaucratic process here in Greece but many of the procedures are there to safeguard your interests and ensure the yacht is free of debts or any other financial burdens.

Do not be tempted to take any shortcuts or accept any bits of paper presented to you by an eager seller supposedly to speed up the process. Obviously if your buying through a professional Yacht Broker the route to your new yacht will be a simpler process. 

Looking for that Survey, need some help? Want to chat? Drop me a message. 


We provide a range of Marine Surveys including Pre-Purchase Surveys, Hull Surveys, Systems Surveys, Sea Trials, Insurance Surveys, Damage Surveys, Valuation Reports and Finance Surveys. With many years of experience representing interests of both Purchaser and Vendor, we are fully aware of the problems which may arise in the process of purchasing a vessel.

Greece Office: +30 2273 022036

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Email: steventruss1@aol.com


Tuesday 10 November 2020

IS NOW A GOOD TIME TO BUY A YACHT IN GREECE?

The world has never been more uncertain, 2020 has been a washing machine of emotions and a mental earthquake that’s cracked our sense of safety, security, and freedom wide open. 

It’s all caused a bit of a stir.  Some people are experiencing an awakening and an invigorated motivation to make their dream life happen.  Others were well underway towards their goal and are now questioning if they should proceed forward.


At this point, if you’re not already living your dream lifestyle, you’re probably asking yourself “why not?”.  And if you aren’t, you should be because it seems good news is maybe on the way with Vaccine hopes, a Brexit deal and a new President in the US. 

Yes, travel and International travel are still heavily restricted, but over the next few months things should ease and you can start searching for your dream Yacht and embarking on your dream adventure of Cruising the Greek Islands and beyond.



If your thinking about buying a boat in Greece and you need help please do not hesitate to contact me. Check out my website for the different types of Surveys and Inspections I offer.

https://www.yachtsurveysgreece.com/

Otherwise just simply drop me a message at steventruss1@aol.com with your basic requirements and boat details and I will get back to you within a few hours with a cost and a timescale. 




Check out Leros Marina for Yachts Sales!


Tuesday 27 October 2020

Yacht Insurance Survey - Marine Survey for Insurance

Insurance Survey 

When you want to insure a boat, or have to renew an existing policy, your insurance company will need an Insurance Survey in order to determine its insurability for the intended use. This type of survey is often referred to as a Condition and Valuation Survey. The scope of an Insurance Survey approaches a Pre-Purchase Survey, but its focus is on structural integrity and safety and it is less detailed. An assessment of the boat's Fair Market Value is part of this type of survey. 



An Insurance Survey requires several hours, depending on the complexity and condition of the boat. My survey report is similar to a report for a Pre-Purchase Survey, but somewhat less detailed.

Please email me at steventruss1@aol.com

Tuesday 14 March 2017

Iroko Turkish Gulet for sale.


We are at Lakki Marina in LEROS again this week Surveying this lovely old Gulet. 

Leros situated between Patmos Lipsi and Kalimnos and Kos in the Dodecanese islands. Leros like most of the Greek islands is an island of small fertile valleys sandwiched between rolling green hills, deep coves and pretty beaches.

This unusual twin screw version!




A Gulet (Turkish pronunciation: [ɡuˈlet]) is a traditional design of a two-masted or three-masted wooden sailing vessel (the most common design has two masts) from the southwestern coast of Turkey, particularly built in the coastal towns of Bodrum and Marmaris; although similar vessels can be found all around the eastern Mediterranean. Today, this type of vessel, varying in size from 14 to 35 metres, is popular for tourist charters. For considerations of crew economy, diesel power is now almost universally used and many are not properly rigged for sailing.

Thinking of buying a Gulet in Greece? Please contact me for a discussion before proceeding. We have personal experience in buying these type of craft   info@yachtsurveysgreece.com


Tuesday 7 March 2017

Avoid that sinking feeling and Carry out a Survey

We are heading back to Leros and Lakki Marina this weekend to Survey and Value this lovely old Wooden Gulet. You can still buy these older wooden Gulets for about £15,000. 

This one looks a a beauty, but would you be sailing away with a bargain or a never-ending drain on your bank balance?

Catch up with next weeks BLOG, images and information on this Inspection.



Surveying Wooden Boats

I have owned lots of wooden boats over the years, I can count atleast 20!! 

Gulets are very appealing to newbies to boating because for one reason they look like a real boat should, and also because of all the room that's available. The biggest reason buyers like them is the cost. You can quite easily find a six berth for under 10K.  

Lets start with the point that there are many Surveyors who are no longer in the business after performing pre purchase surveys on wooden boats. I almost gave them up myself years ago because surveying wood boats is fraught with risks.

Lets begin: Concealed areas within a hull are always a problem but, most wooden boats are constructed in such a way that not enough access is available to make a fair assessment. I always pull up all the floors and remove enough paneling that I can get a fairly good glimpse of the bottom and the lower sides. Carrying an electric screw gun is a must in order to do this quickly and effectively.

My biggest job is removing all the internal fittings. That means I have to move a lot of mattresses, bedding, carpets and empty out lockers, etc. Once the interior is opened up as best possible, Im ready to begin.

Three important tools are a slim light crow bar, the sort used for pulling nails. A light hammer and a standard blade screwdriver. I check the joints between planks and frames visually, looking for gaps or any sign that the plank is not tight against the frame. I then use the screw driver to test the wood for softness on both plank and frame near the mating surface. You should be very careful with your screwdriver or spike as they can be destructive! Many a Surveyor has got into serious trouble after the boat owner found thousands of spike holes in the bottom of his boat! 

I occasionally try to slip the crow bar under a frame and pry gently. If the frame moves, there is a fastener problem. I do this at every opportunity along the hog (internal keel) or chine area. Often the frame ends are split or soft, repairs are usually necessary.

Weepage is a process of very slow leakage, very often involving the capillary effect in addition to just water pressure from outside the hull. Weepage is not referred to as leakage because the rate is so slow that the water evaporates nearly as fast as it enters the interior. It can occur with no sign of wetness, but inevitably leaves some trace of its existence such as stains.

Certainly its not feasible to go through the entire hull testing all frames and planks in this manner, and fortunately it is not necessary except for the keel area where this needs to be done wherever possible. Further up from the keel, I can limit the physical testing by looking for signs of weepage. Anytime there is evidence of water migrating through seams, corrosion of fasteners has to be suspected. Weepage shows up in various ways, often depending on whether the wood is painted or bare, its age and so on.

Use the screwdriver for testing the hardness of the inner planking, particularly in the deep bilge or any place that is wet or looks suspect. The screwdriver blade is just the right tool, and if it goes into the wood, you know for sure that its deteriorated. Poking around like this is quick and easy so that most vulnerable areas can be quickly covered.

The two most common areas for sprung planks to occur is the garboard and the forefoot area. The forefoot planking is difficult to check because this is the point where the planks narrow into the stem. But, again, signs of weepage or leaking is usually present when fasteners are wasted and planks are loose. Use the screwdriver and insert the blade into the intersect of plank and stem and push hard. This should be done on both sides in every area that can be reached. Again, this does not take long if the area is accessible and will readily show up rot and looseness. Get inside the chain locker if possible or strip out the forward berth. I always want to get a good look at the inner stem and hog and where they are scarffed together. If the stem or hogs rotten then the front of the boat may have to be opened up! (major job!).

The intersect of bottom and side planking to the transom is yet another area where leakage and deterioration are prevalent. This area is also often difficult or impossible to reach, being obscured by fuel tanks and exhaust pipes and whatnot. On larger cruisers you can strip the aft berth out and get in, but on Yachts you may only be able to see the inner corners by using a mirror or camera, unless your very small and you can climb in through the transom hatch and around the rudder tube. If reachable, probe the wishbone transom frame from both above and below. Probe from the intersect of bottom planks and frames, and transom plank and frame. If the wood is at all soft, the problem is serious and needs further opening up and investigation. Examine the intersect all the way up to deck level. Is there water leaking in from above? If so, what is it doing to the wood and fasteners? Check from the exterior: are there open seams and signs of rot on the corners? If you see it above the waterline, what's going on below? Remember that open seams are allowing rain water in, and fresh water can be disastrous.

Keel bolts are always difficult to inspect or comment on. Check these major structural members for signs of working. Look for unevenness of scarf joints or any other signs of movement or working. Probe the keelson with the screwdriver for evidence of softness. Check the intersects of transverse frames for signs of rubbing or chaffing that indicates movement. Check visible bolts and bolt heads for corrosion. Also check for discoloration around the bolt heads. If the wood appears white and soft, this is an indication of weepage. Be careful about diagnosing this as "electrolysis." Its probably not. I always suggest the removal of at least two sample structural keel bolts for examination of the fastenings and adjacent timber material. This task is obviously difficult and sometimes impracticable and should be approached when convenient.

If there is water getting at the bolts, serious corrosion must be suspected. The only conclusion is to draw the bolts and inspect them. Don't rely on just tapping these bolts to see if they're loose. They may be tight now, but may go loose when the hull is working. Bear in mind the forces that operate on a hull while underway. Be wary of oily bilges and wood that can obscure this evidence. Poke around in the wood surrounding the bolt head. If its soft, you can be sure that there is weepage and the bolt is subject to corrosion.
Inaccessible Areas: These are the areas that almost invariably cause the surveyor his greatest problems for he can't get at them to check. Frequently, these are the areas where structural deterioration takes place because neither interior inspection or maintenance is possible.

·        Outboard and under fuel tanks
·        Behind large exhaust pipes and mufflers
·        Under refrigeration and freezers
·        Under shower pans
·        Under lined lockers
·        Behind hulls that have full hull side ceilings

There's one thing you'll notice about most of the above listed areas and that is the potential for condensation and lack of air flow in these obscured areas which is highly conducive to causing deterioration of wood and metals. These obscured areas should be viewed with extreme caution. The only acceptable conclusion is guilty until proven innocent. To prove soundness, fasteners or planks must be pulled.

Ventilation has a two-fold importance in wooden boats: removal of air saturated with moisture vapour, and introduction of unsaturated (dry) air to permit drying of moist woodwork. It is not easy to ensure that dry air circulates over all the woodwork in a boat. Whilst air may be circulated into a particular compartment it may not circulate through out the whole area unless points of entry and departure are correctly sited. Small areas are often partially or completely enclosed so that air circulation is impeded. These are the so called “dead-air” spaces in which pockets of stagnant moist air are trapped. Often by drilling a few well sited auger holes sufficient ventilation can be provided in what might otherwise be a small dead -air space.

Failed or improperly designed fuel and water tank foundations are a common cause of catastrophic hull failure. Because of the extreme weight of tanks, if supports fail, or were never properly designed in the first place, the planking or individual frames could end bearing a major part of the tank load. When this happens, hull failure usually results.
Be they cylindrical or square, tanks on saddles or on decks not fully supported by hull girders must be checked and the entire load bearing structure examined and evaluated. This is usually not as difficult as it might sound, for anyone with a good knowledge of proper construction can quickly size it up if the structure is accessible. If there is any doubt at all, particularly on aging structures, then other means of evaluation must be found.

If the surveyor has done a good job with the interior, then his work on the bottom is going to be the easiest part of the job. By this time, he already knows if there are loose planks, bad frames, deterioration, weepage or leakage and where all these things are located. Long before it comes out of the water, he has a pretty good idea of whether this is a sound hull, and in many cases he'll already know that it isn't, so there's no point in hauling.

Nailing hulls is the common method on Gulets. Nails cannot be pulled without causing much damage to the plank, if they can be gotten out at all. Inspecting the heads only tells one the condition of the head, not the rest of the nail. And tearing planks off means that they have to be renewed and the cost far too high. Nondestructive methods such as X-ray are both costly, difficult and not necessarily reliable.

Screw Fastened Vessels: Utilizing all the techniques outlined above, along with removal and inspection of fasteners, can provide a reasonable degree of certainty as to a hull's soundness. Moreover, screw fasteners can be replaced if they have good holding ground, meaning that planks and frames are not split or deteriorated.

To evaluate a screw-fastened bottom, first isolate the likely problem areas, including all of the garboards, under fuel tanks, and so on. One should not resort to the practice of laying out a pattern of evenly spaced points and pulling fasteners in this method as it is strictly hit or miss.

First examine for:
·        Cupped or warped planks
·        Open seams and weepage from interior after bottom is dry
·        Planks with split ends or splits anywhere
·        Loose seams
·        Sound planks with heavy hammer for sound of looseness.
·        Discoloration around screw heads
·        Special attention to butt ends
·        Under tanks and engines - stress from heavy loads
·        Damp environments like under water tanks,etc.

All of the above areas should be marked and targeted first, for it is here where the problems are likely to be. Then, if all these suspect areas prove out okay, you may not even need to pull fasteners in the non-suspect areas and this will reduce the work load greatly. The objective here is to determine whether the hull has a general condition of wasted fasteners or whether it is isolated due to the initiating factors discussed above.

Remember you need permission from the owner to pull fastenings. Tight fasteners should be hard or impossible to move. If it won't turn, don't bother trying to force it because its okay. Fasteners that just spin without backing out are bad and one needn't waste his time trying to get them out.

I will get back onto this subject of surveying wooden boats in the future, there are so many more areas left to discuss. Decks being one of them. Ive been chasing a leak on the decks on my boat for about 6 months and im still yet to find it! But hey, that's another story.

My services: For a wooden boat survey, the vessel should be blocked off ashore as it is not possible to carry out a useful assessment of the underwater hull during a one hour lift and hold in a travel hoist. The survey will often require some dismantling in order to access hidden areas. Here, the focus is on any decay or deterioration from rot, marine borers or electrolytic action, and on the condition of the fastenings. It is important that I carry out as thorough an examination as possible by getting good access to the hull and frames. The costs of repairs can easily be beyond the market value of the boat so it is vital for you to get the best possible idea of what you are buying from the outset.

Thinking of buying a Gulet and need help? info@yachtsurveysgreece.com